Amway diamonds make 650k+ a year. Actually I'm wrong. When our sack of shit Platinum talked his downline into moving over to Monavie I estimate that was a loss of around $25,000/month to Amway. Products are wonderful with high quality. Action is the key of success ,,, just take the action . Anna. Sure, nice mark-up for the lipgloss. If your last name ain't Devos or VanAndel then you don't own an Amway business. i m an mba student in common with study i also building amway business in part time, nd i have achieve 21% level. It is a unique business. From what Ive seen of Amway Diamonds they live beyond their means. Ive now added an extension to the Wiki which allows us to easily list these pages and so far we have information (at least the names!) I know these are true, because they show us their checks. It is the largest multi-level marketing company in the world by revenue. But Anonymous can go right on "faking it til he makes it" and thinking "everything is awesome" as month after month goes by and he slips deeper and deeper into debt while his upline lovebombs/abuses him and tells him "you can't quit now, not when success is just around the corner. Plz,say me how its possible in 6 month to diamond..? Feel free to join in or live vicariously! The business is an opportunity, not a hand out. !I'll never forget the "Book of Diamonds". Facts are not "assumptions". The business isn't perfect because people aren't perfect. Save big with the world's largest selection of diamonds. Answer (1 of 4): To quantify, A Diamond is a level in Amway business wherein one has six Platinum organizations or six breakaway groups having a sale of at least 10 Lac rupees/month. I said "well, he does have 12 people already set up for his downline". "if someone unemployed joins amway..great! Look at the small print on Amway's literature where it shows that less than 1% make money. Try again later. Yes, a Diamond who follows the instructions, which includes having 10 RETAIL customers every month and builds that ethic into their downline could make $150 K per year. Diamonds don't make 150kthose are emeralds. It looks like you're still brainwashed after all these years of being out. Enjoy laid-back luxury on Oahus sunny western coast in Ko Olina. I think this is yet another brainwashed Ambot assuming anyone who shines a light on the lies and deceit of the Amway SCAM/pyramid are just a bunch of folks who prefer to "rant" instead of find solutions. Hi anna. The Amway marketing plan is very flexible. we call it "the prosperity Gospel" and that is apart from an insult to Christ, an outright misrepresentation . Or any other night. When a Diamond dies, he can look back on his life and say, "Ive helped thousands of people make extra money and accomplish their goals though free enterprise and universal success principles and generated economy for this country" When Anna Banana dies, she will say.. "I was a cunt that liked to blog that never helped anyone. The rich successful restaurant owners pay their waiters crap, and hire illegals, at substandard wages, to clean up at night. Hello, it's me again, back from the meeting. urgent..i want my ex lover back he is leavingme not calling or texting, he is not even responding to meanymore. For the tiny percentage of ambots who make it it's probably not so nice an income because they have to pretend they're living an Amway diamond lifestyle on low 6 figures and going into debt to fool their downline how rich they are. I have yet to have someone tell me that they were involved in this great transportation company and then have it turn out to be a Toyota salesman trying get me to buy a car. I have the biggest Amway losers showing up here to bitch about this blog all the while proclaiming they're Christians. I am showing the people that are actually wondering if half the stuff you say is true or not some evidence of who we actuall work with. We are a training system on how to build the amway business to a truly significant level. Seeing the greedy diamonds giving their bullshit speeches, I wanted to vomit. What would be more fantastic would be more information. THis was before the internet mind you. Diamonds look back and say look at all he people I fucked over to get rich. But then again, that's what everything in Amway is based upon. People also make money and live beyond their income, which is not amways fault and it happens to 90% working class people. 150k is not a bad income. Amway only brings you a life of misery, debt, and destroyed relationships.Glad you saw through those lying bastards. Even with that I don't regret for a minute our involvement in the Amway business model and would encourage others to pursue it for the personal development alone. DON'T YOU? And, those that are doing that well are doing so at the expense of the poor folks duped into working below them. Further these are some other facts about Amway Diamonds: 1. People in Amway are prudes The correct answer when asked about your dream is to say its to produce gay porno movies. You need to counsel with the assholes in your Amway upline. So ones diamondships volume is part of another diamondships volume), i would like to know how is it possible. Uplines DO!!! FUCK OFF!!! I'll bet twice as many are questioning their faith after being involved with some of the unsavory elements in the Sales organizations. Those bazillions of dollars in residual income from Amway should be rolling in every month at the 2 year mark, and she should be about 2 years in now if memory serves correctly.We had a post up a few weeks ago featuring someone selling her homemade items on Etsy and earning around $60,000/month. Amway has been great to me and my family. I really just stumbled upon this blog but I took time out of my day to make a post. The other 5% will be broke losers forever except for a tiny percentage who are the best liars and the best scammers and have no morals and conscience and they will make some money at Scamway. Amway is all about selling the hope. Its being ripped off by the scam.Yeah I remember the Amway cult leaders preaching over and over to show the plan. Anonymous - you and I might know this thanks to high level Amway IBO's who spilled their guts about the Amway tool scam but we'll never convince a brainwashed Ambot. If you can help contribute to Amway Wiki with information on existing Diamonds, or even just a simple page with the names of any Diamonds were missing and their level please do so! Amway: The Untold Story Brig & Lita Hart vs. Amway et al. He goes to a lot of the conferences and weekly meetings and is actually doing pretty well which he thinks is just luck. You kind find better stuff free at the library or online. It's funny how some people go around not realizing that Anna's tone is actually intentional. Thanks for sharing your story. He even handed me a free xs energy drink. As a 12 year old witnessing the early years even I had the common sense to look at this yahoos and think, "This is the biggest scam ever"! BWW? I'm amazed the Amway media machine isn't blowing this out their asses that this immigrant made it big in Amway and has bought millions of dollars worth of businesses, etc etc. LOL! That rule of course only applies to Ambots. Not interested.8. Thanks! Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. No matter what cult she signs up with, the cult leaders do not want their followers in relationships (friends, family, significant others) who are not members of the cult. They couldnt stop, of course. But the business is real i know a guy who went from a pool clean-up to a diamond in 6 years. That 150k for diamonds you see is actually what's required by the federal trade comission. Of course peoples personal experiences and opinions are biased based on their true life stories duh!!! Osu? Yup to the whiteboard and drawing circles on it. Numbers do not lie. Required fields are marked *. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. but the moral of the post is that if I help you make $4000/month The Amway corporation will pay me $850/month, now what is bad about that? Get suckered into a Scamway meeting, pull out your phone and surf right over here. Amway altered my pre-teen years, and straight-up destroyed my parents marriage back in the early 1990's (my dad was in Amway & my mom refused to be a part of it) I was 10-15yrs old when I bore witness to the fucking Amway lifestyle.I'm 35 now, and I look back and see all the ways Amway brainwashed my dad. The same way that none of the money my down line spend goes to me. Diamonds speak at a few rallies a year even if they don't get one of the major functions. Most people's bullshit alarms go off, and even ones that sign on out of pity end up bailing if the brainwashing doesn't take hold and they do MATH and see they are going to keep on losing money forever in Amway. Thats to Amway and other MLM business, common people can take part of the billion dollar industry of distribution. Regarding the percentage of Alticors revenue that comes from Amway, a few years back (dont have a link handy sorry), the media reported Alticors non-Amway holdings as doing around $100 million. Realists always face reality. More fucked in the head than what Amway does to them. There is no problem with having another job with Amway, especially if you have a high paying career. Sick! I have a list of every North American Diamond that has appeared in the Amagram since 1964. Maybe he really has those things and his debt will result in his retiring at 33 years old to his mansion in South America. The comment above yours is very typical of an Amway Christian. They made no mention of her former life as an Amway Diamond. Amway's own figures on their literature show only a small fraction of 1% IBO's make money. An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". Wait a minute. heard all the "Motivational speeches". I grew to resent everything Amway, because my parent's life became consumed with it. In fact. Where else would you get that working 4 hours a week?recessions happen and effect more than just amway. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. Yeah the smart people who quit almost as soon as they sign up can get a refund. "if i don't get him/her back i will end my life.."What, so you can't even tell if your ex lover is a man or a woman? JUST DO IT. I once heard a completely brainwashed over the top Ambot claim "If Jesus were here today, he'd be selling Amway!" Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. About Amway. See, contactme, above. URA?Or are you going to run and hide, realizing you have made a dangerously invalid remark, with a face attached?-Jerry, You guys shut the hell up you all are broke and if you check the stats Amway is rated much higher than your jobs and it had help more people become financially free. This list will cover both current and former Amway Diamonds, U.S. and foreign, and living and deceased Diamonds covering the 50+ year history of the company. Yup they all want to meet for coffee. Take that shit somewhere else.3. Anonymous - you don't think Darnell its hilarious that many people have been financially and emotionally devastated by the Amway scam? hi, anybody can help but Amway. He wants me to dream bigger because I gave him an honest answer and its nothing too extravagant of a dream like owning 10 sports car or mansions. Anonymous you should check out our recent post about how Amway ambots claim Amway never advertises. So 0.014%. Amway Wiki is one of the most popular Amway related websites on the internet, with nearly 20,000 visitors a month and an awful lot of that traffic comes from people searching for the names of individual Diamonds folk are looking for information, lets help them get the facts! Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway's publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Until you feel Gods love, it may be hard to accept-Kyle. Many entire coutries went bankrupt due to economic recession. first there are taxes, and the expenses of running such a business, so that $150 K gets whittled down to 100 PDQ. I don't want him to get suckered into this, he sounds so passionate about it too.PS. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. Look at the small print where it shows how much Amway Diamonds make each year. How the hell do I know if its fake or not? Also, please don't bother to reply without all their Schedule C's attached, O.K. The company was founded in 1959 by Jay Van Andel and Richard DeVos and is based in Ada, Michigan. But what a dilemma. Amway Product Review: Artistry Skin Refinisher. So, I jumped on the internet on my smart phone and did some research. If your wife is an artist you'd think she could switch over to sell her wares on Etsy. These are the guys with the lavish lifestyles that few will ever achieve. The rest they got from selling business tools (supposedly at cost; that is certainly what they told us). You support restaurants don't you? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amways publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Kyritsis got off easy. Yes, we all know WWDB.You get rich by selling CDs, books, and other tools to naive Amway IBOs. Then they get punished and told never question upline. "Everything is awesome", Put this into Google Translate and even it shrugged it's shoulders in confusion. Bring emotional and financial devastation to everyone they touch. I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . Maybe Kenny Rogers put it best-Jerry, I mean i guess you were in the business. They teach you to keep positive, keep pushing to achieve your dreams, and to never quit. You have no time to waste!!!~Osuwariboy. Hey thanks! Shouldn't the FTC know that they are LYING about the income of this opportunity? Uh you dumb Amway fuck you want me to talk it over with the person I've just phoned you to complain about it. Speak to who introduced you to Amway! Their mouth is moving. I did my own research and i did find that yes some "diamonds" go broke by spending money that isnt there. Its great to know that a lot of diamonds are qualifying each year. Working 7 days a week non stop. Greed rules! You got to spend $30 to buy a box of them. Miss America takes on paid sponsorships as do other pageants as do many others that have nothing to do with pageants. Now, the company has become the No. !That's one hell of night owl to be fired up from.Back in July I posted on this topic, 2 comments up. Look anna saintana fuck off and get a life. They suck people money away and just make them fat with huge portions of junk. I sometimes wonder if it was for Mary Henderson (if not Tony) because, some time in the 90s when we were no longer in Amway, Marys secretary admitted that Mary had declared she was happy to stop where they were at the time (which I think was Double Diamond) because she was sick of all the bloody hard work. I dont plan on giving it back to him since he gave it to him. Register now to take the next steps on path filled with possibilities. Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. I ran across your amazing blog. Anonymous - 95% of people are seeking solutions to what? I'm going to bring your comments up in a future post because this is kind of old and readers might miss it. I'm surprised some assholes in his Amway upline hasn't already counselled with him about the hairstyle choice because that's all those Amway bastards do in night owls is bitch at the ambots about what they drive, what they wear, and their hair style. You probably would have better luck trying to sign up 5 seagulls to the Amway scam than you'd have signing up real people! One more Amway/Quixtar Story. His numbers and claims just don't add up. There is a link to a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. Just let go of whatever made you write this post and you will be better off down the road. Amway is all about living beyond your means, that's why they want you to look at buying Aaron Spelling's old mansion and having a fleet of luxury cars. This doesn't leave a funny taste in your mouth?-Jerry. Do they get commission every time they get a new person to join? There's an article written by a psychologist that we sometimes reference a link to and he got conned into an Amway meeting and he said people's dreams are usually nothing out of the ordinary - they want to buy a house, go on a nice vacation, etc. We just want to help people not go through the hell we went through. They cherry pick scripture, an make it say the exact opposite of what it does when presented in context. . They're in the past. For the past decade, Amway has had a bumpy ride. Anonymous - Yes! so it doesn't seem like the protein bar price at least is unreasonable.. so i still feel like there is more to this scam that I dont understand. And that's the Amway "trick" at meetings praising a downline for what they bought without noting whether or not they made a profit or not by selling it to a buyer. silverthorn road, seminole, fl33777. Amway wouldn't print it out if it wasn't true, would they? So maybe that accounts for a lot of Ambots who sign up with Amway the Cult of Greed. They recognize winning card percentages, cost to play, table volatility, sunk loss, emotions, tendencies of other players, and play their cards accordingly, separating themselves from pride and ego. I remember looking at the tapes, which cost $5-6. Get out there, build your business. Work your way to riches? Even if we are talking 4,000 diamondships (which many diamondships have two diamonds in it), that would be each diamondship running $16.5 million in volume annually. LOL! And thats income for 2 people. We're not making money. Amway is all about financial and emotional distress. Those two couples are now in Amway/Quixtar terms "Emeralds and Diamonds". To my horror it was a Fu&^%&ing AMWAY rally. You will not be able to return to the payment option. I've been recently talked to by my friend about this "be your own boss" type of thing. I've got a friend in a nearby town that I can come over and visit. take steps now to have a golden retirement later. Osuwariboy - he's being a bad little Ambot isn't he. Is it worth working all those hours and going into debt to trick others and not having much $$$ to show for it? Me again. Now the Internet has made it a more transparent society. It may only be shared or re-used under licence. It is a nice income for most people. Not just buy them, but subscribe monthly for new tapes every month. At least if people are watching TV they aren't losing money to Amway. Its not about money Anna, its about having the freedom to choose your own hours and not answering to anyone. WWDB has a ton of motivational resources that can help get you to the next level of your MLM business. Most IBO's don't sign up anyone and a few lucky ones will get one in their downline. I wasn't even there and I can give a play by play because nothing ever changes in Scamway.First off you got sucked in by someone you trust and hope wouldn't steer you wrong or get you involved in something bad.Amway the Cult of Greed where the Great Amway God is worshipped and nothing is more important than the almighty dollar. Everyone else keeps working the scam. Surely you've got competent staff at all your businesses who can take care of things while the money rolls in for you?You're just a day's drive from me. Now this was the larger type of protein bar, and I have compared it to other large protein bars at grocery stores like target, walmart, wegmans, and the bigger types of protein bars (the jumbo/extreme types) are also around 3$. They would be the first to do that since Brad and Julie Duncan went Founders Diamond. Yeah right. Yo. After a half hour of talking to him I feel like I already wasted a big chunk of my life I will never get back. In other words, a diamond is downline from another diamond. I'm guessing your involvement in this "opportunity" has been no longer than 2 years. This is gross. Now $150,000 sounds like a lot of money to young people or to those with lower wage types of jobs, or those who are just starting out in their careers. Obviously we have differing opinions on what is negative and there's nothing wrong with having different opinions on that. China is now Amway's largest market, accounting for $2.6 billion in revenue, or about 30 percent of its worldwide sales, the company's president, Doug DeVos, told Reuters last year. You never tell an Amway Ambot your dreams because they'll use it as a weapon against you at a later date like when you're planning to quit. We always knew it had to do with everyone in the upline getting a piece of greed pie after the lowly Ambot at the bottom of the pyramid did a lot of work to make a sale. The primary drive of recruitment is fulfilling dreams of insurmountable wealth. Hey Anonymous - you're not a dude you're a prude. Everyone else is making something out of it. Do you play Final Fantasy 14? If that's the kind of abuse you crave, can't help you.Good luck with whatever you decide. Or any other kind of makeup!Oh yeah those Amway bars are expensive. Can't say Amway and honest in the same sentence can you without laughing! They are greedy, wealth-based and sneer at the poor instead of helping them (though ironically Ambots tend to be poor themselves unless they have a great real J.O.B. What would be nice to know is, who are they? Certainly everyone who visits this site needs to read Merchants of Deception. Some people think scammers are positive people, others not so much. Thanks! Im pretty sure no one will miss you. Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. You're wasting time, Anonymous! I bet those Diamonds are gonna be hauling coal in hell and then we'll see how positive they are then! !With Amway, if it takes 10 years to get an income of $1000 a week, you are better off than traditional workers.So what if Amway people still have jobs. I just wish this existed back in the late 80s and I wouldn't have to watch my parents spend tens of thousands of dollars on a lost dream. I thought they were earning so much from this scam that they wouldn't need it. I've had a few features this year from kids of ambots and the stories are so similar and always so sad what they went through. Be bold and go achieve your dreams! Ambit ambot treky gamer softball ballet wrestling scandal housewives of any city MLB nurses doctors attorneys teachers bus drivers painters janitors housekeepers air force sergeants college drop outs home wreckers divorcies engineers police officers ceos bankers hobos toilet cleaners garbage men truck drivers golfers successful failures sanguine shy opinionated blind crippled old young retired teens cashiers chefs ushers couple singles homosexuals tourist pilots greeters cloth folders designers tech gurus architects painters carpenters candle makers sales men machine operators gymist personal trainers secretaries managers call center workers horse riders sailors fishers skiers dancers. I join this buisness 1 month ago. This is just sad ambitious or not. Guess which one is easier for us to do?9. 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